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March 10

Unsure how to proceed with reporting potential vandalism

Recently, on the Sao Paulo page, there has been an IP user who may be vandalizing the page with different IP addresses. I checked Sao Paulo's history and there have been a few recent edits by some IPs that seem to publish edits under the summary "fixed typo" but actually make some strange edits that ruin the entire page. The most recent happened roughly 45-60 minutes ago and basically blanked the entire page without necessary removing its content. I'm aware of reporting vandals with administrators, but as this is across various IPs and seemingly hasn't been reported as of yet, I'm unsure how I should handle this. The only idea I have as of now, as it seems it has been happening frequently with this page, is extend protecting it, but I'm not sure how to do that. Any advice? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 00:46, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers You can request page protection at WP:RFPP. Ultraodan (talk) 03:05, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 03:21, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Harriet Martineau

Please repair reference 12 - I am unable do so and i am confused, thank you. Srbernadette (talk) 02:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: This is because, once again, you introduced an extra digit into the |date= parameter. Someone else has fixed it, but I hope that moving forward you will be extra careful when adding dates. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette, on 12 October, Tenryuu suggested that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." On 25 October, I suggested that you edited while logged on (as Srbernadette), that on your user page (of course User:Srbernadette), you created and maintained a list of links you find useful (Template:Cite web#Date would be among these), and that whenever stuck, you started by consulting the relevant item(s) in your list of useful links. You made no comment on either suggestion; perhaps they didn't interest you. -- Hoary (talk) 07:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

how to appeal page restriction

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I am trying to initiate an appeal to a page restriction that falls under the Palestine/Israel conflict, the talk page for Gaza Genocide, which is extended-confirmed protected. I lodged my appeal at ArbCom, but was told this was inappropriate, but the alternate pages to which I was directed are filled with text, much of which is crossed out, and I cannot make heads or tails of them. Would you please tell me clearly on which page I should lodge my appeal? Thank you! Kenfree (talk) 03:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Kenfree. Looking at your edits, I don't see where you lodged your appeal at ArbCom. Could you link to that edit of yours so we can see what advice you were given there? DMacks (talk) 04:57, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

DMacks, the edits in question were made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Decrease, and Kenfree's request was denied. That is not ArbCom, by the way. Cullen328 (talk) 05:33, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Running InternetArchiveBot on a really big page?

How do I run InternetArchiveBot with "Add archives to all non-dead references" turned on without timing out? Every time I try to run the bot on 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests page, I get timed out. The page has more than 700 references. No.cilepogača (talk) 13:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I know nothing about InternetArchiveBot, No.cilepogača, and only comment here because hours have passed since you asked and nobody else has commented. What I'd do is copy the source to a window of my preferred text editor (Geany, as it happens; but any decent text editor should work), and chop the file into perhaps five chunks of what look like a similar size. (No need to measure them.) Now, for each of the five: (i) cut the chunk from your text editor and paste it into your sandbox, (ii) run InternetArchiveBot on the content of your sandbox, (iii) cut the chunk from your sandbox and paste it into your text editor window. Once you've finished that, copy the whole thing from your text editor window, paste it into 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests (of course replacing what was already there), preview, and if it seems OK, "publish". Done. ¶ Incidentally, are all those references needed? I notice that an assertion as humdrum as "On 1 February, Madonna supported the students on Instagram" comes with five references. -- Hoary (talk) 11:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

March 11

Manage connected applications

I was surprised to see "CK's audio creator [1.0] Publisher: Commander Keane" at Special:OAuthManageMyGrants. I have never worked with OAuth and never heard of this tool. Maybe it is related to six years ago when I did many audio recordings with code at en:wikt:User:Commander Keane/Audio workflow. Perhaps I was messing around with OAuth at some stage. The naming "CK's audio creator" sounds too sophisticated for something I would come up with though. Is there a way to track down why or how this was added? Other items on the special page include "Wikimedia Commons Query Service [1.0]" and "Earwig's Copyvio Detector [1.0]", which make sense. Commander Keane (talk) 09:01, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Commander Keane Each item on the list at that page has the option to revoke your approval. My list doesn't mention CK's audio creator, so it can't be vital. I suggest you revoke the permission: the worst that can happen is that you will have to re-authorise it again if you needed it in future. If you want to delve further into that particular tool, you'll need to ask on the talk page of Help:OAuth at mediawiki. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Page move reverting check up

I just reverted a page move for I believe the first time. Will someone please check if I forgot anything or messed it up? It was the article and the talk page: [1] Thank you in advance. Rockfang (talk) 10:12, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Rockfang looks good to me (and phone was miscapitalised as well as being unnecessary Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Template issues

Hi all, I'm working on a new draft, and am attempting to use Template:Infobox ship class overview for the lead. The template, for some reason, does not want to work. It displays it in a weird form as if it is text, and continues to try and kidnap (for lack of a better term) the lead text below it. I've done some poking around and am unable to find a solution, hence why I am asking here. Thank you in advance. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 12:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis: it seems {{Infobox ship class overview}} should be part of {{Infobox ship}} so I have added the latter and it seems to work. Some of what I have added is probably redundant. TSventon (talk) 12:51, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

{{Infobox ship}} is not supported by the WP:SHIPS community. What you added to OP's sandbox is the supported infobox form. Yeah, that form is peculiar, but is inherently flexible. There was a TfD to replace the wikitable/subtemplates with a single template that uses Module:Infobox. The result is that the templates languish in the TfD holding cell.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you both, @TSventon and @Trappist the monk. I will update the parameters from here. Thanks for solving my issue! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 14:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Something broke map overlays in Infoboxes

Dear Helpdesk -

Some recent change (last few days) broke map overlays in Infoboxes. In 2020 I wrote an article that uses an overlay on a map in an Infobox to outline an area. As of a few days ago, the outline is rendered but is shifted to N of where it should be on the Infobox map. The same outline's position is correct on other maps in the article that aren't in an infobox. Who should I alert to report the problem? (There have been no changes to the map data since 2020.) Osoraku (talk) 18:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Osoraku. In the first instance, bring it up at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Image in wrong place

I need help here. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:26, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi SergeWoodzing. I fixed it with {{Stack}}.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:50, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Re-naming a WikiSubProject

If it was mooted to rename a sub wikiproject, what effect would this have on articles that carry the former project name in the box at the head of their talk pages? I can't find any advice on this. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:44, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Tony Holkham: The box is probably made by a WikiProject template which can be edited to display the new name on all the talk pages. We can say more if you name the sub project. It's best to be specifc in questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter - Thanks for that. I didn't name the sub project because it is only a suggestion so far, but it is the RNLI Task Force subProject of the Water Sports Project - see here Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:42, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@Tony Holkham: {{WikiProject Water sports}} would be edited to produce something else. A new parameter name might be added instead of {{WikiProject Water sports|RNLI=yes}} but RNLI would probably be kept as an alias so talk pages which use it wouldn't have to be edited. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter - OK, thanks. One of us will come back to this query if there is support for the change. Cheers, Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:23, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

What happened to WP:AFI?

Not much activity, nominations open for multiple years. Anyone here noticed? RanDom 404 (talk) 22:14, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

If I had ever heard of Wikipedia:Articles for improvement, RanDom 404, then I later forgot about it. Now that I do notice it, I'm not at all surprised to learn that it's moribund. -- Hoary (talk) 01:32, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Wouldn't this be basically all articles that are worth keeping anyway? It's hard to imagine there being articles that are perfect, articles for keeping mediocre, or articles for making worse. Musiconeologist (talk) 03:02, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@RanDom 404 The basic idea is still being promoted by The Signpost, for example if you look at the latest edition (search for "improvement"), you'll find that they mention Jewish deli, followed by Kerosene. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

March 12

Merging

If I want to merge two articles (in this case because an AfD closed with that recommendation) in the old days I would simply have copied-and-pasted the content of one article into an appropriate place in the other, turned the first article into a redirect to the second, then edited the second article appropriately to make sense of the new content. Is there now anything different to be done on a technical level? Or does the method I've just described still work appropriately? AndyJones (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Broadly, yes, @AndyJones. See WP:PROMERGE for the details. ColinFine (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Anna Leonowens - plagiarism question

Seeking feedback on this post about plagiarism... Drew Stanley (talk) 14:30, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Drew Stanley I have responded there. TSventon (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Immaculate Heart High School (Los Angeles)

I have added a file of an photograph of the old school It is way too big - please assist. Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Srbernadette I made a quick fix of the issue by adding "|thumb" to the file. If you want to tweak the image's size, placement, etc, I recommend you check this help page NeoGaze (talk) 23:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

You got there first! Musiconeologist (talk) 23:35, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

I think last time it was a matter of adding |thumb somewhere. I'll go and look . . . Edit: already done by NeoGaze. You definitely should keep a note of these fixes. I won't say it's easy, because different people find different things easy or difficult, but it's a small edit once you're familiar with it. Musiconeologist (talk) 23:34, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Easiest way to add score examples?

So I have been editing the article Symphony No. 2 (Brian) since its very start, and I wanted to add score examples of the main themes of the piece. I tried copying the template from Beethoven's Eroica Symphony and manually modify it, but it takes too much time and trial and error. Is there a more intuitive and efficient way to do this? Thanks in advance. NeoGaze (talk) 23:28, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@NeoGaze: Have you read the Help:Score page? There are some resources in the External links section including one to LilyPad documentation that might be helpful. There are a few WikiSource links in the box on the right of the See Also section which are tutorial-style. Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 01:46, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

What's the right way to deal with numbers in foreign currencies?

For example, today the EU announced tariffs on €4.5bn of U.S. consumer goods. If I want to use this information in a U.S.-focused, American English article, is it best practice to leave the number in Euros, convert the number to USD myself, or is there a template I can use somewhere?

I've seen templates like Template:From EUR, but they haven't been updated in years so they cannot convert 2025 currency. satkara❈talk 23:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Satkara: If you're set on using a converted value to USD in the article, I would go ahead and use the From EUR template and just specify the most current year that there is template data, which appears to be 2023 based on some testing in a sandbox. Based on MOS:MONEY, I would suggest including the reported euro value along with the conversion and year used for conversion rates (i.e. "{template conversion to USD} in 2023 dollars"). Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 01:32, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @Jiltedsquirrel! satkara❈talk 02:32, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

March 13

Linking citations with url as well wikipedia article

Morning Folks!! Is possible to have cite book entry that links to the book url in the internet archive and at the same time link to the Wikipedia article about it. For example, on the George MacDonald article, in the fantasy section, there is cite book entry and there is also the Fantasy section entries. In the first entry there is a Phantastes: A faerie romance for men and women which links to the internet archive but there is also the Phantastes article. Is it possible to link these two somehow in an effective way. I tend to mention the book in the prose but it would be nice to see linked in here somehow. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 11:33, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

@Scope creep You can use the parameter |title-link in the {{cite book}} but it will conflict with the URL and give an error. The help at Help:CS1_errors#URL–wikilink_conflict suggests you would need to place the URL at the end of the citation (outside the curly brackets at the end, for example) to separately provide the link, say as "Here at archive". Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia should generally not be cited as a source. I would put the internet archive link in its parameter, which I know is in the website entry but I am not sure if it is in the book entry. PhoenixCaelestis•Talk•Contribs) 12:45, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

They are not used as sources thankfully, just sitting in the publications list. I don't think its in the cite book entry. I would have assumed there was a simple way of doing it. They must have came across this problem before? I think putting the archive link at the end of the cite and using title-link seems the best way of doing it. scope_creep^Talk 12:50, 13 March 2025 (UTC)